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Zap Zarrap
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.02.28 15:09:00 -
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So,
i am currently making about 19 Mill / hour while doing Sec Missions.
Two toon setup : Sentry Navy Domi plus Loot / Salvage toon.
It might be more than 19 mill but not much.
I am not counting LP stuff towards the ISK /h right now, just Bounty, Loot and Salvage.
I dont want to give up ont eloot and salvage as I want to keep the option of building stuff from
the recprocessed minerals.
So, what would you say it the maximum Isk / hour a two toon combo can go ?
thx
Zap |
Zap Zarrap
State War Academy
Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2013.02.28 15:23:00 -
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Schmata Bastanold wrote:If stars are aligned properly and mission fairy feels friendly with not crazy missions I'm pretty sure I make more than 19 mil per hour. But:
- I use AC mach not drone boat
- I run L4s in 0.5-0.6 system
- I don't loot/salvage just collect reward and move to next mission (not same as blitzing, I kill everything)
- I have Negotiation 4 and working on 5 lvl
Probably nothing helpful for you but maybe gives you some idea what to improve. Or not :)
ist defintily got pointers.
skills: yeah got to work on those i think
ship. well i think the dps / tank is the factor. so increasing overall dps works as well.
what i get from your answer is that i might be making much more isk if i swicth the send toon from loot / salvage to
another dps boat.
mightbe worthwhile to think about.... although all that loot... :-)
and finding those missions in an area of 0.5 systems would be neat. but unfortunatly those are most often directyl next to lowsec. and i dont want to risk losing my nvy domi to some mission pirate.
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Zap Zarrap
State War Academy
Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2013.02.28 15:47:00 -
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Schmata Bastanold wrote:
Just in case you don't know it (if you do sorry for stating the obvious) best "efficiency" (I hate that term in relation to a game but whatever) is to kill rats, bookmark 1 wreck in every mission pocket and return mission to agent. Wrecks stay in space for about 2 hours so you can run missions for 1,5hr and than switch to noctis and do the tournee to every bookmark and clean up. That way you could dedicate you second toon for supporting dps or RR instead of just let him sit in noctis waiting for clear pocket.
Indeed I didnt know that. so even the deadspace pockets with accel.gates stay there for 1,5 hours ??
and those numbers in a mach... insane.
what kind of skill level does one need to effectivly fly a mach ? and i also guess its with all T2 / faction mods and such ?
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Zap Zarrap
State War Academy
Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2013.02.28 16:09:00 -
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actually i just ran th numbers and even though these number seem too god to be true, it is highly unrealistic that one can chain
for example Angel Xtravaganza for hours.
my two-toown combo is actually not far behind when you brak it down to isk / minute.
my numbers are not based on a per mission, but on a timeframe of about 4 hours of misisoning per online session.
the major difference I see though is that those Mach numbers are based on ONE pilot... thus meaning way less hassle.
guess i will to rethink my toon setup a lil bit.
and get the dusting Dominix out of storage....
i hate this grinding but it needs to get done.
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Zap Zarrap
State War Academy
Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2013.02.28 16:09:00 -
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Zor'katar wrote:Zap Zarrap wrote:Indeed I didnt know that. so even the deadspace pockets with accel.gates stay there for 1,5 hours ?? The gates and structures and everything associated with the mission will despawn after you turn the mission in, but the wrecks will stay. That means your salvager will be able to warp directly to the wrecks without having to travel through gates, but it also means you'll need to bookmark a wreck in each pocket.
thx for clearing that up ! cool |
Zap Zarrap
State War Academy
Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2013.02.28 19:47:00 -
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Fango Mango wrote:Zap Zarrap wrote:So,
i am currently making about 19 Mill / hour while doing Sec Missions.
Two toon setup : Sentry Navy Domi plus Loot / Salvage toon.
It might be more than 19 mill but not much.
I am not counting LP stuff towards the ISK /h right now, just Bounty, Loot and Salvage.
I dont want to give up ont eloot and salvage as I want to keep the option of building stuff from
the recprocessed minerals.
So, what would you say it the maximum Isk / hour a two toon combo can go ?
thx
Zap If you aren't maximizing LP/hour then you are running missions "wrong". LP should be worth 3x-5x what the mission reward. If you are taking time to shoot everything for bounties then you aren't blitzing your missions and you aren't maximizing your LP/Hour which will maximize your ISK/hour. So . . . 1) Switch the a corp for your faction that has the best LP store and a security agent in 5.0 system 2) Blitz missions to maximize your LP/hour. 3) Convert LP at 3K/LP and you're space rich. -FM
i understand. although I am a bit allergic to doing things "wrong" in a sandbox. but I do get your point. thx mate. |
Zap Zarrap
State War Academy
Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2013.02.28 19:49:00 -
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although one more question:
"converting LP to ISK" means to get stuff from the LP Store and then resell on market, right ?
thx in advance |
Zap Zarrap
State War Academy
Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2013.03.01 08:44:00 -
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again.. 19 mill is just for bounties. i haven sold any loot / salvage (yet).
and i know i am at the low end of the spectrum, but as was already pointed out, not all have the skills or ressources
to fly a totally pimped out pirate BS or something like that.
my main has 30mill SP , and those are pretty spread out , so he-¦s in now way a specialized toon. gives flexibility but of course it costs effectiveness.
i have about 250k of LP , too. just need to find the right stuff to buy for it.
seems though that i did not pick exactly the "best" corp / LP store available though.
to the other guy asking: no, i am not skipping the faction storyline missions.
a lot to improve upon it seems. nice. new goals.
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Zap Zarrap
State War Academy
Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2013.03.01 08:48:00 -
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Tsukino Stareine wrote:John Dulles wrote:Run incursions in fleets, make 120m/hr plus concord lp, profit not everyone can fly a tech 3, tech 2 logi or a faction battleship
agreed!
although...
i am doing my missions in a navy domi with T2 sentries...
if that would be accepted in incursion fleets, I could switch....
do you get faction standings increase for incursions too ?? |
Zap Zarrap
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.03.01 23:02:00 -
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Tsukino Stareine wrote:Zap Zarrap wrote:Tsukino Stareine wrote:John Dulles wrote:Run incursions in fleets, make 120m/hr plus concord lp, profit not everyone can fly a tech 3, tech 2 logi or a faction battleship agreed! although... i am doing my missions in a navy domi with T2 sentries... if that would be accepted in incursion fleets, I could switch.... do you get faction standings increase for incursions too ?? haven't done incursions since the new ai patch, not sure if they're useful there anymore or not. To be perfectly honest if you can run level 4s in respectable time (should be with t2 sentries) and salvage+ loot everything you make comparable isk to incursions. It's also a lot easier to find time to do solo missions than to hope for an incursion group.
thx for cearing this up. also lvl 4-¦s suit the solo and occsional playstyle that fits my RL at the time being. fleets like incursions are a bit too strict in setup and schedule for me |
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Zap Zarrap
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.03.06 10:37:00 -
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i just sold implants and such from the LP store yesterday and have to correct my overall ISK / Hour to a feisty 37mill/hour for
real "Casual" play compared to what some people have posted here. I am content. for the time being.
although my alts are on the fast track to getting sentry V themselves. then i will start MELTING.
:-)
thx again guys. |
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